they have to look up to joe biden, is that fair? >> no, no it's not fair but -- [ laughter ] after 400 years, you know, this is like eight years of payback right? >> stephen: excuse me, it is payback. >> you -- >> stephen: when do reparations start? thastles a socialist power grab in the speech. he is talking about ending the partisan divide. >> right. >> stephen: doesn't he have to take some of the blame? >> no. >> stephen: we had a congress and he was the variable. he was the x factor, the change. he got in there and -- >> no, no. >> stephen: suddenly we're more divide than ever. >> the mid term election in 2010, right. >> stephen: we were angry right away. >> right. >> stephen: i got angry extremely angry right away. because he won though. he won. >> stephen: yes. >> right. what you are saying is by winning he should have united the country. the only way to do it is by him losing. >> stephen: that would have united the country. he put his own desires above what is best for the nation average long with the people who voted for him